May 2015 - Lnc-business - Moellman Enterprises Email

May 3 LNC meeting via Adobe Connect to discuss logos
by Alicia Mattson 03 May '15

03 May '15

As agreed during the LNC meeting in Phoenix, on May 3rd (6 p.m. Pacific / 9 p.m. Eastern) the LNC will be using Adobe Connect to again take up the discussion on logo redesign proposals. *At the bottom of this message you will find the information needed to join the meeting.* Please note that per our rules, only LNC members/alternates may use the backup telephone number, and not guests. Guests should connect via computer, which is free. Each of you should review the electronic meeting rules on pages 14-15 of the policy manual: http://www.lp.org/files/LNC_Policy_Manual_Adopted_2015_03_28.pdf If you intend to invite those outside the LNC to participate, please note that there are some rules that apply to guests. In a separate email, I will provide copy/paste quality material suitable for non-LNC guests, including excerpts of the rules that apply particularly to guests. The Adobe Connect system has been used a few times by other committees, and the following lecture is based on that experience. 1) Even though it is possible to use a mobile device to join one of these meetings, you are mistaken if you think you can participate meaningfully while driving down the road in your car and connecting with your iPhone/iPad. It's dangerous. You can't pay attention to anything shown on the screen, and even the audio won't have your full attention because you're driving. Raising your hand, or voting, or trying to adjust your microphone is the equivalent of texting while driving, which could earn you a ticket (and no points from the Secretary, though other points could accrue on your license). You're much more likely to lose your connection as your signal is transferred from one cell tower to another. Etc. 2) You should make arrangements to be in a reasonably quiet location with a decent-speed internet connection. If you have a slow connection (like a cell tower) the audio/video may cut in and out for you. Don't be in a bowling alley or a night club or a grocery store. Children should be supervised by someone else in another room. Barking dogs or other noise-producing pets should be put in another location where they won't be heard by the rest of us. 3) USE YOUR HEADPHONES OR EARBUDS. I use the same earbuds I use with my iPod. You can buy a pair for $5 in lots of places. Not using headphones/earbuds will cause echoes for other participants because the sound coming out of your speakers will feed back in through your microphone and get re-transmitted. The echoes are very distracting and maddening. 4) When this system is used with only a handful of people, participants can generally leave their microphones on and self-regulate if two people talk over each other. This meeting will be the largest we've ever used the system for, and I suspect it will be important for everyone to mute their microphones while they're not talking, and use the raise-hand feature to have the chair recognize you to speak, after which you can turn on your microphone. -Alicia ----------------------------- Meeting Name: Libertarian National Committee When: 05/03/2015 6:00 PM Pacific / 9:00 PM Eastern Purpose: Discussion of Logo Redesign To join the meeting: https://lp.adobeconnect.com/lnc/ Audio Conference Details: If you join by computer/webcam at the link above, you do NOT also need to dial into this teleconference, which is a backup audio-only option. Teleconference Number(s): 866-814-9555 Conference Code: 7509417927 If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before: Test your connection: https://lp.adobeconnect .com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm ----------------

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Re: [Lnc-business] (no subject)
by doug＠vikingmetals.com 03 May '15

03 May '15

not sure if I can vote on this one...but I was ask to go ahead and vote...So for Doug Craig I vote yes ..but this was close also Doug Craig -------- Original Message -------- Subject: From: William Redpath <wredpath2(a)gmail.com> Date: May 2, 2015 11:29 PM To: lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org CC: I vote Yes. Bill Redpath On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Daniel Wiener <wiener(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > I vote YES. > > Dan Wiener > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> We have an electronic mail ballot. >> >> >> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 8, 2015 at 11:59:59pm >> Pacific time.* >> *Co-Sponsors:* Mattson, Olsen, Wiener, Hagan >> >> *Motion:* To elect Doug Craig to the at-large vacancy >> >> Alicia Mattson >> LNC Secretary >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Lnc-business mailing list >> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org >> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org >> >> > > > -- > *"In general, we look for a new law by the following process. First, we > guess it (audience laughter), no, don’t laugh, that’s the truth. Then we > compute the consequences of the guess, to see what, if this is right, if > this law we guess is right, to see what it would imply and then we compare > the computation results to nature or we say compare to experiment or > experience, compare it directly with observations to see if it works. If it > disagrees with experiment, it’s WRONG. In that simple statement is the key > to science. It doesn’t make any difference how beautiful your guess is, it > doesn’t matter how smart you are, who made the guess, or what his name is. > If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. That’s all there is to it.”* > -- Richard Feynman (https://tinyurl.com/lozjjps) > > _______________________________________________ > Lnc-business mailing list > Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > > _______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org

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Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2015-03: Sustain Chair's Ruling Regarding Convention Packages
by doug＠vikingmetals.com 03 May '15

03 May '15

I vote yes on the Chair's ruling..but I could have voted easily the other way... Doug -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2015-03: Sustain Chair's Ruling Regarding Convention Packages From: William Redpath <wredpath2(a)gmail.com> Date: May 2, 2015 11:32 PM To: lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org CC: I vote No. A convention package purchase should not count toward sustaining membership. Bill Redpath On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:21 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Just to add a few more thoughts: > > I thought Norm's points were well made. We put convention package sales > into a completely different set of accounts on our books because the > primary goal of those cash flows is to offset the expenses of the > convention. We do the same with sales of t-shirts or hats. In 2008 when > we contracted the convention management duties out to an LLC, those package > sales revenues went to the LLC, not to the Party. The entity that incurred > the expenses received the offsetting revenue as well. > > A convention package buyer is paying for meals, for the travel costs of > the speakers at their meals, etc. They're buying goods and services. > > If I sell my car to you for $5,000, you didn't give me a gift. We > exchanged assets of equal worth. > > Think about why the status is called "sustaining" membership. It is > desired for those people to donate funds that the party can freely use for > operations to sustain the party itself. The intent seems to be implied in > the very name that was chosen for the status. > > -Alicia > > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> We have an electronic mail ballot. >> >> >> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 8, 2015 at 11:59:59pm >> Pacific time.* >> *Co-Sponsors:* Mattson, Olsen, Wiener, Hagan >> >> *Motion:* To sustain the Chair's ruling that a person's purchase of a >> convention package in the prior twelve months >> meets the requirement of Bylaws Article 5.3 that a sustaining member must >> have "given at least $25 to the >> Party in the prior twelve months" >> *Note about Effect*: >> Because this is phrased as a motion to sustain the chair's ruling, a >> "yes" vote means that the purchase of a convention package should count >> toward sustaining membership. A "no" vote means that the purchase of a >> convention package should NOT count towards sustaining membership. >> >> Alicia Mattson >> LNC Secretary >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Lnc-business mailing list > Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > > _______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org

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Please vote ASAP on email ballots!
by Daniel Wiener 03 May '15

03 May '15

*If you haven't yet voted on the two email ballots, I urge you to do so tonight or Sunday morning*. Once all LNC members (not alternates) have voted, the balloting will be closed early. That way, whatever happens (based on the current tallies), Doug Craig will be able to vote at Sunday night's electronic meeting regarding the LP logo. Dan Wiener

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Logos
by Arvin Vohra 03 May '15

03 May '15

Hi all, Over the last week, I have considered various logos, shown them to various people from all age groups, and read online responses. Here's what I've gleaned. 1. The logo with the torch over the t, is clever and symbolic, but has critical shortcomings. First, the image cannot be separated from the word. Second, it seems lower energy and more bank-ish than many of the others. 2. My personal favorite, the L-bell, doesn't always read quickly enough. When not understood, it loses power. With the huge scope of our party, that would be a significant drawback. 3. The various forms of the statue of liberty are okay. I like the aggressively front facing one that we often use on facebook. The old logo statue of liberty is a bit too low-energy for my taste. 4. The Taylor torch appears to be most effective. It's higher energy, has a separable image and word, is visually attractive with a modern appearance. There is one other significant advantage of the taylor logo: it already has associated visual branding. That means with this logo, we'd already have integrated possible website appearance - a much better one than anything we have now. With all this in mind, I intend to change my support from the L-bell to the taylor torch. While the L-bell will remain my personal favorite, I believe that the overall interests of the LP are best served by the taylor torch. -Arvin

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Electroinc Meeting
by Norm Olsen 03 May '15

03 May '15

Please be advised that Region I Alternate, Ron Windler, will be representing Region I at the LNC's first electronic meeting this evening. I expect to be on board as an observer. Norm -- Norman T Olsen Regional Representative, Region 1 Libertarian National Committee 7931 South Broadway, PMB 102 Littleton, CO 80122-2710 303-263-4995

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Adobe Connect Meeting
by Guy McLendon 03 May '15

03 May '15

Will there be a link sent out for this meeting? Guy

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Green Party - 2012 Election Summary
by Scott L. 02 May '15

02 May '15

I could not find an equivalent summary for the 2014 elections, but 2012 is recent enough to still be relevant. TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTTTTTTTTT http://www.greenpartywatch.org/category/local-elections/page/4/ "2012 Green Party Election Wrap-up by the numbers 1/6/2013 by Brent McMillan 313 green party candidates ran for election in 2012. By comparison 308 green party candidates ran for election in 2008, 437 green party candidates ran for election in 2004 and 282 green party candidates ran for election in 2000, the presidential election years. Three out of four offices that greens ran for in 2012 were partisan, by my count, 235. 45 greens were elected to office in 2012, 14% of those who ran. Of those Greens won 50% of the non-partisan offices that they ran for and only 3% of the partisan. Twenty of the 45, less that half, were incumbents seeking re-election. Six of the wins were partisan: Alvin Clay was elected to Mississippi County Justice of the Peace, District 6, AR. Kade Holliday was elected to Craighead County Clerk, AR. Fred Smith was elected to State Representative District 50, AR. Roger Watkins was elected to Craighead County Constable District 6, AR. Art Goodtimes was re-elected to San Miquel County Commissioner District 3, CO. Korine Elizabeth Bachleda was re-elected to Newberg Township Clerk in Cass County, MI." TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTT Note that the Green Party candidates were 17 times more likely to win if they were in a non-partisan election than if they were in a partisan election. Also note that their partisan wins were at the municipal level except for one State Representative (who had previously served in that position as a Democrat), and 2 County level positions. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to tell potential donors that the Libertarian Party elected over a hundred Libertarians to office in 2016, and that our success rate in non-partisan elections was 20% or 30%, or even 40%? Does anyone really think that bragging about increases from 3% to 5% in State House races is really going to convince libertarians to show up at County Libertarian Party Meetings or show up at State LP Conventions? Scott Lieberman

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approved minutes from 4/15/15 EC meeting
by Alicia Mattson 01 May '15

01 May '15

Attached are the now-approved minutes from the 4/15/15 Executive Committee meeting. Staff, please post to the website when you get a chance to do so. Alicia Mattson LNC Secretary

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March End-of-Month Financials
by Tim Hagan 01 May '15

01 May '15

The March End-of-Month Financial Reports are attached. March had a surplus of $26,054. Donations to the Building fund were $5,294, so the surplus of unrestricted funds was $20,760. Tim Hagan

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