July 2014 - Lnc-business - Moellman Enterprises Email

Top Two
by Joshua Katz 31 Jul '14

31 Jul '14

Is it within the jurisdiction of the LNC to take action to oppose top-two in Oregon, perhaps by setting aside money for a legal challenge or advertising before the vote? If so, I suggest someone with the ability move to do so, as I do not think our affiliate there is in a position to fight it, being somewhat busy with other things? As a side note, does if top-two passes, does that impact the JC decision? Will there still be such a thing as SOS recognition for a party? Joshua A. Katz Region 8 (Region of Badassdom) Alternate Libertarian National Committee Chair, Libertarian Party of Connecticut

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2014 Autumn LNC Session - Re-Modified Motion - Request for Co-Sponsors
by Guy McLendon 31 Jul '14

31 Jul '14

Co-sponsors: Guy McLendon, Jay Estrada I'm seeking co-sponsors of the following motion: Motion: "Schedule a 2014 Autumn LNC session date/location to be on the weekend of Dec 13-14 in New Orleans, LA." Justification: nailing down the city & date will allow us to make airline reservations earlier, and save us all some cash. After doing some research, the proposed date was adjusted to provide benefits of lower overall cost.

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Dec 2014 LNC Session - Modified Motion - Request for Co-Sponsors
by Guy McLendon 30 Jul '14

30 Jul '14

Sorry for the duplication . I'm seeking co-sponsors of the following motion: Co-Sponsors: Guy McLendon, Jay Estrada, Nick Sarwark and Vicky Kirkland (See note below) Motion: Schedule a LNC Session for the weekend of Dec 13-14, 2014 in the New Orleans, LA metropolitan area. Justification: nailing down the city & date will allow us to make airline reservations earlier, and save us all some cash. After doing some research, the proposed date was adjusted to provide benefits of lower overall cost. Note: Nick & Vicky approved "Winter" version with minor language typo .

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2014 Winter LNC Session - Modified Motion - Request for Co-Sponsors
by Guy McLendon 30 Jul '14

30 Jul '14

I'm seeking co-sponsors of the following motion: Motion: "Schedule the 2014 Winter LNC session date/location to be on the weekend of Dec 13-14 in New Orleans, LA." Justification: nailing down the city & date will allow us to make airline reservations earlier, and save us all some cash. After doing some research, the proposed date was adjusted to provide benefits of lower overall cost.

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Dec 2014 LNC Session - Modified Motion - Request for Co-Sponsors
by Guy McLendon 30 Jul '14

30 Jul '14

Sorry for the duplication . I'm seeking co-sponsors of the following motion: Co-Sponsors: Guy McLendon Motion: Schedule a LNC Session for the weekend of Dec 13-14, 2014 in the New Orleans, LA metropolitan area. Justification: nailing down the city & date will allow us to make airline reservations earlier, and save us all some cash. After doing some research, the proposed date was adjusted to provide benefits of lower overall cost.

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FW: [Lnc-discuss] Introductions and personal goals for the 2014-2016 LNC term
by Norm Olsen 30 Jul '14

30 Jul '14

Forwarding to lnc-business(a)lp.org -- Norman T Olsen Regional Representative, Region I Libertarian National Committee 7931 S Broadway, PMB 102 Littleton, Colorado 80122-2710 303-263-4995 Norman.Olsen(a)lp.org "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Gandhi -----Original Message----- From: Norm Olsen [mailto:region1rep@doneDad.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:41 PM To: 'lnc-discuss(a)hq.lp.org' Subject: RE: [Lnc-discuss] Introductions and personal goals for the 2014-2016 LNC term Hello All . . . I have returned from several weeks of attending family gatherings in remote portions of Pennsylvania and California. Just now catching up on literally hundreds of e-mails. (Please keep all moans and groans down to a minimum. :>) I have been active in the Libertarian Party since the days of Harry Browne's first presidential run (~1996). My activities include 8+ years on the Bored of Directors of the Libertarian Party of Colorado, including a 2 year stint as chair. I was elected as a Regional Representative to the LNC in 2010, and am now starting my third term as such for basically the same region which is currently known as Region 1. More importantly, I consider myself to be a "pragmatic Libertarian". I could go on endlessly as to what I mean by a "pragmatic Libertarian", but please allow me the leeway of defining it very briefly as an individual who considers the following phrase the most significant of all that is in our by-laws: "moving public policy in a libertarian direction by building a political party that elects Libertarians to public office;" There are three distinct portions this phrase that are essential to my definition. First, the words "moving public policy in a libertarian direction". Small steps in "a libertarian direction" are fine by me and are all that we can expect to achieve as a political organization. Expecting to reverse 200+ years of migration towards collectivism in single giant steps is unrealistic. Second, as a political party, success is defined "a political party that ELECTS Libertarians to public office". Educational efforts are best left to Cato, Heartland, Reason, etc. Success in our niche of the Libertarian movement requires electoral success. Electoral success is a very objective numbers game where the two critical numbers (in most cases) are 50% and +1. Third, electoral success can only come from "building a political party". To me that means a lean and mean political organization built from the bottom up; an organization of several strong local affiliates which have achieved critical mass sufficient to win partisan political races in their state. As a goal for the next several years, I'll settle for one such affiliate. Hopefully, you now know who I am, and what my objectives are. Norm -- Norman T Olsen Regional Representative, Region I Libertarian National Committee 7931 S Broadway, PMB 102 Littleton, Colorado 80122-2710 303-263-4995 Norman.Olsen(a)lp.org "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Gandhi -----Original Message----- From: Lnc-discuss [mailto:lnc-discuss-bounces@hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Nicholas Sarwark Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 11:21 PM To: lnc-discuss(a)hq.lp.org Subject: [Lnc-discuss] Introductions and personal goals for the 2014-2016 LNC term All, I would appreciate it if you could take a couple of minutes and send an email to this list with a brief introduction of who you are, your history within the Libertarian Party, and what you would like to accomplish in this term on the LNC. I would like to address our goals as a group at the September meeting, and I thank Dr. Lark for starting that discussion, but I think it's also important to get to know each other as well. I'll start: I'm Nicholas Sarwark, former Chair of the Libertarian Party of Maryland, former (as of tonight) Vice Chair of the Libertarian Party of Colorado, deputy public defender, former computer guy, husband and father of two kids. My goals for this term are: (1) to put out a consistent Libertarian message that will appeal to millennials and unaffiliated voters and contrast the Libertarian position with people like Rand Paul in a way that will allow us to pick up voters if/when he is eliminated from the GOP contest and (2) do whatever I can to assist with the success of state affiliates and candidates. My belief is that if I can accomplish those things, revenue and membership numbers and convention attendance will increase as well. -Nick _______________________________________________ Lnc-discuss mailing list Lnc-discuss(a)hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-discuss_hq.lp.org

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Re: [Lnc-business] Informal Poll LNC December Meeting
by SAM8074＠aol.com 30 Jul '14

30 Jul '14

I agree with Norm that it is premature to be discussing a future LP convention when we have not even populated the Convention Site Selection Committee or a new Convention Oversight Committee. These items should be on the agenda for the Sept. LNC meeting as should discussion of perhaps setting the date/location of the remaining LNC meetings for 2014-2015. Sam In a message dated 7/30/2014 4:46:14 P.M. US Eastern Daylight Time, region1rep(a)doneDad.com writes: Four points with regard to this thread: First, I prefer low cost for both LNC meetings and conventions. I am fortunate in that I live in a city which is the hub for three major airlines, so I have several choices in getting to most any city non-stop at a competitive airfare. Others may not be so fortunate. Second, in my humble opinion, conventions should be held on Memorial Day weekend. I suggest that choosing this date will produce the largest attendance and the lowest cost. Choosing this date, or allowing an alternative, should be the first decision the LNC should make with regard to the 2018 convention. Third, I suggest that conventions are best run by a private entity (ala Denver 2008) and not by the LNC itself. Doing so enables the producing organization to solicit sponsorships from private organizations and vastly reduces the burden on LNC staff among other advantages. Therefore, given a decision with regard to date as presented above, the first step in selecting a convention location should be to solicit bids from interested private groups for organizing and producing the convention. The LNC should then choose to either accept one of the submitted bids or choose to run the convention itself. Fourth, in the event that the LNC chooses to produce the convention itself and having made the decision of the date of the convention, the LNC should choose a venue from a list produced by the organization which produced the list from which the 2010 convention venue was chosen. (The name escapes me, but Briscoe & Somebody, something like that.) Using LNC meetings to check out possible sites is OK, but let's keep in mind that our duty to the membership is to have a convention which the largest number of our membership will be able to attend with due consideration given to both scheduling and financial aspects. Norm -- Norman T Olsen Regional Representative, Region I Libertarian National Committee 7931 S Broadway, PMB 102 Littleton, Colorado 80122-2710 303-263-4995 Norman.Olsen(a)lp.org "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Gandhi -----Original Message----- From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Nicholas Sarwark Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 6:12 AM To: lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Informal Poll LNC December Meeting Thanks Daniel for sending these options out to the LNC. My personal preference is the later weekend and the Hampton Inn, due to the significant savings to the members (on travel and room cost) and the LNC (on meeting space and breakfast). I'm happy to do a tour of the Hilton Riverside as a potential convention venue while we're there. If there is a strong preference for the earlier weekend or the more expensive hotel, I would defer to the rest of the LNC. -Nick On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes(a)icloud.com> wrote: > Members, > > I started to write another email trying to compare and contrast the two seeming top contenders for our December meeting and just decided to repost the Email I sent to staff, the chair and Guy. Dec 13/14 seems to be by far the cheaper weekend. In addition to the mail there is also a chart of the top 2 contenders Hilton Riverside and Hampton inn Convention Center included. > Can we get an informal indication from members as to their thoughts on these 2 hotels before we put a motion back up? > Do people seriously want to consider NOLA for an upcoming convention and do we think its worth the extra money to stay in the Riverside to better evaluate it or would you guys rather stay in the Hampton which is less expensive? > > > "After having spoken to Robert, he seemed to indicate that typically there are about 6 or so people interested in taking tours, even when in the hotel proposed for the convention. The increased convenience might bump the participation by a person or 2. Most members of the LNC don't put much interest into the location of the NatCon and leave it to the LNC Convention Planning Committee. > I of course am interested in promoting NOLA for a NatCon for various reasons. Coming at it strictly as a member of the LNC. I think a top destination city like NOLA will only enhance NatCon Participation. I feel this increase will be most pronounced in an off election year like 2018. Coming at it from a local standpoint, we of course would love the increased access for a Presidential year NatCon like 2020, but the destination city increases would probably be lower than the effect it has on an off year as there is already increased interest during a Presidential year. > > I think from the LPHQ standpoint, the dates for the 13/14 are significant as well as the concessions garnered for the individual rooms. With those dates in mind for these 2 hotels. The Hampton can save us $1800. That said, the costs of the Riverside are in line with avg meeting costs for the LNC. > > Our State LP is looking at holding our Winter Peace Party the weekend that the LNC is in attendance. One of our local members has gotten us a bead on a private room at the top of the Jax. It's a premium location located right on the river in the French Quarter. With drinks and appetizers included, we have gotten it for a rate of $35/person. It's a great rate and we are hoping that some of our neighbors from surrounding states might be interested in coming in and socializing with us for the weekend. This location is somewhat of a straight shot from both hotels with the Riverside being about a 5-10 minute walk from Jax and the Hampton being about 15-20 minute walk. Overall the Riverside is right on the edge of the FQ, It's across the street from the Casino, etc. > > I am from the school of, let's save the money, but I have to realize that I am a lot different in my mindset from a lot of other people. So for me, staying at the cheaper venue would be a go. However on top of that, I am not staying at any of the venues, I am sleeping at home with my dogs. So there may indeed be some value in staying at the likely NatCon contender so that most LNC members can get a feel for it even if they arent paying attention.” > > Daniel Hayes > > ave HQ $1800. > > > _______________________________________________ > Lnc-business mailing list > Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > _______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org _______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org

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Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2014-11: Lark as an International Representat...
by SAM8074＠aol.com 30 Jul '14

30 Jul '14

Yes Sam Goldstein In a message dated 7/30/2014 5:32:46 A.M. US Eastern Daylight Time, agmattson(a)gmail.com writes: We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by August 9, 2014 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Norm Olsen, Alicia Mattson, Dan Wiener, Vicki Kirkland Motion: The Libertarian National Committee hereby appoints Dr. James Lark to serve as an International Representative per Section 2.09.3 of the policy manual. Alicia Mattson LNC Secretary _______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org

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Email Ballot 2014-10: Oregon Resolution v2
by Alicia Mattson 30 Jul '14

30 Jul '14

We have an electronic mail ballot. *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 29, 2014 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Dan Wiener, Vicki Kirkland, Tim Hagan, Guy McLendon *Motion:* Whereas, the Bylaws of the Libertarian Party state that “delegates to a Regular Convention shall be selected by a method adopted by each affiliate party” (Article 11, 3 (b)), and Whereas, the Bylaws of the Libertarian Party state that “each state-level affiliate party shall, in accordance with its own Bylaws and these Bylaws, determine who shall be its delegates to all Regular Conventions.” (Article 6, 3), and Whereas, the Bylaws of the Libertarian Party state that “the autonomy of the affiliate and sub-affiliate parties shall not be abridged by the National Committee or any other committee of the Party…” (Article 6, 5), and Whereas, a dispute over the Oregon delegation was placed before the Credentials Committee, which subsequently presented a report to the Libertarian Party National Convention on June 27, 2014 which did not describe the details of that dispute, and Whereas, a motion was made to amend the Credentials Committee report to include three individuals as delegates within the Oregon delegation, and Whereas, in response to a Point of Order the Chair of the National Convention ruled that the proposed amendment was in order, the Chair’s ruling was appealed, the Chair’s ruling was sustained by a vote of the assembly, and the assembly subsequently approved the amendment, and Whereas, the 11th edition of Robert’s Rules of Order Newly Revised, which is the Parliamentary Authority for the Libertarian Party as stated in Article 16 of its Bylaws, states (p. 483) that “In any event, no action of the board can alter or conflict with any decision made by the assembly of the society, and any such action of the board is null and void (see p. 577, II. 23-33).”, and Whereas, the Libertarian National Committee nevertheless regrets the situation wherein some delegates believe the above decision was incorrectly decided, therefore Be it resolved that it is the sense of the Libertarian National Committee that it wishes to convey those regrets to the Libertarian Party of Oregon. Alicia Mattson LNC Secretary

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Seeking co-sponsors for appointing Jim Lark as an International Representative
by Alicia Mattson 29 Jul '14

29 Jul '14

Now that Dr. Lark has weighed in to confirm his willingness to serve if appointed, are there other co-sponsors for the motion previously proposed by Norm Olsen (and co-sponsored by me): The Libertarian National Committee hereby appoints Dr. James Lark to serve as an International Representative per Section 2.09.3 of the policy manual. -Alicia On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > That's an excellent question, Vicki. Hopefully Dr. Lark will respond soon > to let us know if he would accept such an appointment. > > -Alicia > > > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Vicki Kirkland <vickilp12(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Has anyone checked with Dr. Lark concerning whether he is interested in >> being appointed to >> this position? >> Vicki Kirkland >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I will co-sponsor this motion. >>> >>> -Alicia >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Norm Olsen <region1rep(a)donedad.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Ron . . . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On behalf of my distinguished colleague from Alaska, I propose the >>>> following motion and request fellow members to consider co-sponsoring it: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The Libertarian National Committee hereby appoints Dr. James Lark to >>>> serve as an International Representative per Section 2.09.3 of the policy >>>> manual. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Norm >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Norman T Olsen >>>> >>>> Regional Representative, Region I >>>> >>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>> >>>> 7931 S Broadway, PMB 102 >>>> >>>> Littleton, Colorado 80122-2710 >>>> >>>> 303-263-4995 >>>> >>>> Norman.Olsen(a)lp.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, >>>> then you win." -- Gandhi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Ron Windeler [mailto:rowindeler@aol.com] >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 15, 2014 3:06 AM >>>> *To:* region1rep(a)doneDad.com; lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2014-05: LNC-Discuss Email >>>> List >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Now that the International Representative motion has passed, could >>>> you please enter a motion to appoint my friend, James Lark to the position >>>> as the second representative. He really should be the first, as he has >>>> been active in ISIL longer than I have. He was fulfilling the duties >>>> of the position before Mr. Neal thought of the idea. Also, encourage Mr. >>>> Neal to join ISIL if he hasn't already, as it is the preeminent >>>> international libertarian organization today. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ron Windeler >>>> rowindeler(a)aol.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Norm Olsen <region1rep(a)doneDad.com> >>>> To: lnc-business <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> >>>> Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 11:01 pm >>>> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2014-05: LNC-Discuss Email List >>>> >>>> Aye! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Norm >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Norman T Olsen >>>> >>>> Regional Representative, Region I >>>> >>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>> >>>> 7931 S Broadway, PMB 102 >>>> >>>> Littleton, Colorado 80122-2710 >>>> >>>> 303-263-4995 >>>> >>>> Norman.Olsen(a)lp.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, >>>> then you win." -- Gandhi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org >>>> <lnc-business-bounces(a)hq.lp.org?>] *On Behalf Of *Alicia Mattson >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2014 1:14 AM >>>> *To:* lnc-business(a)lp.org >>>> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2014-05: LNC-Discuss Email List >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We have our first electronic mail ballot of the term. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 12, 2014 at 11:59:59pm >>>> Pacific time.* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Sponsor:* Nick Sarwark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Motion:* The LNC-Discuss email list archives will be made available >>>> from June 30, 2014 forward and a Google group established, similar to the >>>> procedure for LNC-Business. >>>> >>>> Alicia Mattson >>>> >>>> LNC Secretary >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Lnc-business mailing list >>>> >>>> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org >>>> >>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Lnc-discuss mailing list >>>> Lnc-discuss(a)hq.lp.org >>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-discuss_hq.lp.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Lnc-discuss mailing list >>> Lnc-discuss(a)hq.lp.org >>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-discuss_hq.lp.org >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Lnc-discuss mailing list >> Lnc-discuss(a)hq.lp.org >> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-discuss_hq.lp.org >> >> >

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