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<p>Sorry I'm a bit late to this game. <br>
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<p>> the Platform is simply Libertarians nerding out over a
document the vast majority of the public will not read</p>
<p>I strongly disagree with the relative priorities expressed here.
If you want to skip the convention entirely to focus on activism,
I get that, but the platform is easily the most important thing
done there.</p>
<p>Leadership is just names and faces. Yes, it can be nice to have
hard workers there. And it would be nifty if they didn't say
embarrassing things. But ultimately they don't really matter much.
We could succeed or fail about as easily with a good (e.g.) chair
as with a bad one. And honestly the difference in quality between
the leading candidates just isn't that big.<br>
</p>
<p>Absolutely most people will never read the platform. But think
about who it is that does. They're interested, aware, and
motivated. They're more likely to end up getting involved. I know
reading the LP national platform was one of the first couple of
things I read to learn what libertarianism was. I wasn't going to
sit down and read some philosopher's tome, but a few bullet
points? I can handle that.<br>
</p>
<p>And even if they don't sit down and read it, which again most
won't, it's reference material. When I've had people try to
misrepresent what the LP is, I can quote and link to the platform
to show them they're buying into a BS narrative. That alone is
valuable.</p>
<p>It also serves a purpose within a party, though this would be
done better if it was shorter.<br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/06/2018 02:00 PM, Dan Johnson via
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<div dir="ltr">This is a broader comment but I would be all in
favor of having the agenda go: Bylaws, LNC Elections, Platform,
instead of its current order. Bylaws are important because they
set the rules for the convention, but the Platform is simply
Libertarians nerding out over a document the vast majority of
the public will not read, IMO. So if we can have the dedicated
focus on the platform at the end we can probably get the LNC
elections all done at the convention. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 1:39 PM Ted Metz via
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<div dir="ltr">I am very pleased with the At-Large outcome. It
is my opinion that the At-large voting procedure is flawed
in that there are 5 slots and 30(?) candidates. I think
plurality voting is the only way to efficiently handle
multiple candidates for multiple openings. There was no
bullying, no force, no intimidation.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Furthermore, I am not certain that the outcome would
have been any different had the procedure been done by the
book, and if it had, it would have taken 12 hours or more,
same opinion with the Judicial Committee. I would like to
see plurality voting for any positions that have multiple
openings with perhaps taking the top vote recipients equal
to twice the number of openings for round one, and move
them to the final round of plurality voting to determine
the top picks. </div>
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<div>For these elections, we were allowed to choose all of
our candidate choices, and those with the most approval
votes got the positions. <br>
<br>
Now, this sort of officer election would be perfect for
ranked choice voting.</div>
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<div>I suspect that the person(s) raising the issue is just
upset that their guy didn't win. </div>
<div><br>
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<div>Ted Metz</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:31 PM,
Ryan Graham via Lpganationaldelegates2018 <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<p>I've given the feedback as no animosity or anything
towards Nick for hurrying us along at the end, but
still general unhappiness with the result. We need
to get it fixed by 2020 so it doesn't happen again,
but we can accept what happened this year.</p>
<p>The problem with moving the elections up is less
time to campaign for the candidates. Should be a
happy medium somewhere though. The speed at which we
vote is also a problem. A party that literally
complains about our abundance of IT people and we're
still hand balloting these things for our Secretary
to enter into Excel on her unsupported Windows XP
laptop is probably not going to cut it.</p>
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style="font-family:georgia,palatino,serif;font-size:12pt">In Liberty,</span><br>
<span
style="font-family:georgia,palatino,serif;font-size:12pt">
Ryan Graham</span><br>
<span
style="font-family:georgia,palatino,serif;font-size:12pt">
Vice Chairman, Libertarian Party of Georgia</span></div>
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<p>On 2018-07-06 00:24, Nelson Barnhouse wrote:</p>
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<div>Well if you are going to be all logical
about it I give up. You do not have to blame
me. For an alternative example the Republicans
in their Ga convention finish all the people
elections before they vote bylaws. They seldom
complete bylaws.<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone</div>
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On Jul 5, 2018, at 11:19 PM, Ryan Graham <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ryan.graham@lpgeorgia.com</a>>
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<p>I think the issue is more that we leave
the really important elections until the
very end. We shouldn't have to rush
through it. I'm not mad Nick rushed us
through it based on where we were, but we
shouldn't be in that position to begin
with.</p>
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style="font-family:georgia,palatino,serif;font-size:12pt">In
Liberty,</span><br>
<span
style="font-family:georgia,palatino,serif;font-size:12pt">
Ryan Graham</span><br>
<span
style="font-family:georgia,palatino,serif;font-size:12pt">
Vice Chairman, Libertarian Party of
Georgia</span></div>
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<p>On 2018-07-05 23:08, Nelson Barnhouse via
Lpganationaldelegates2018 wrote:</p>
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<div>Blame me. I left early.<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone</div>
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On Jul 5, 2018, at 9:42 PM, Nathan
Wilson via Lpganationaldelegates2018
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<div dir="auto">If the at-large was
not resolved through the majority's,
then the rest of the board would
have appointed individuals they
chose.
<div dir="auto"> </div>
<div dir="auto">Last convention we
did not get to the judicial votes,
so the lnc chose the judicial
candidates. The body had no say in
those results.</div>
<div dir="auto"> </div>
<div dir="auto">In my opinion this
was handled the best way possible
given the time that was left. I
feel there would have been little
change in the lnc regardless of
how many more votes we had. </div>
<div dir="auto"> </div>
<div dir="auto">If you feel the need
to blame anyone, I did at the last
moment at Alicia Mattson to my
vote for at Large. Though this
wouldn't fix anything it would
have gave sheetz a chance. Though
more accurately we could blame the
hundreds of other people who left
early.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jul 5, 2018,
8:53 PM Martin Cowen via
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<div>I did not feel
bullied. I was very
happy to have the matter
moved along
expeditiously.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>We were seriously up
against the clock.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Martin</div>
<div> </div>
<div>P.S. That said, I
wasn't the person who
lost by one vote. I get
it.</div>
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2018, 8:43:57 PM EDT,
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<p>Hey Team,</p>
<p>Our brand new
alternate is
asking us about
how this was
handled. It sounds
like some are
upset at us
suspending the
rules to elect
these positions in
one vote,
especially given
the first out in
the LNC At-Large
race only lost by
a single vote.</p>
<p>Victoria wants to
know if we felt
bullied in any
way.</p>
<p>It sounds like
there is some
discussion of
fixing the vote
for the 3 LNC
At-Large that we
got by suspending
the rules, and
every Judicial
Committee member.</p>
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<span
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Ryan Graham</span><br>
<span
style="font-family:georgia,palatino,serif;font-size:12pt">
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