<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">I like the Resolution as is. <br><br>As a reminder - Article 1 Section 8 clause 11 authorizes Congress "<font color="#000000" style="">To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;"</font><br><br><font color="#000000" style="">What Letters of Marque and Reprisal means is that ownership of armaments of any sort was perfectly acceptable and should still be so today. Look at the UK now, after restricting firearm ownership they are working to outlaw knives. See the progression? Murder is in the heart, not in the choice of tool used to perpetrate the crime. Murder is already illegal, like marijuana, and how is that working out? Red Flags laws are a great way for more of the camel getting into the tent. More murders are committed with hammers than firearms. <br><br>Shall not be infringed means what it says and is what we the people need to cling to, otherwise, like so many communist regimes in recent history, we will become further enslaved and dependent on the mercy of our out of control Government.<br><br>If this disarmament continues on the current trend, then only government actors will have firearms and the rest of the peasants will be tyrannized relentlessly. <br><br>Red Flag laws as a concept and under their current design are unconstitutional under the 4th Amendment. They will be used in the same manner as disgruntled ex-spouses use CPS (DFACS) for harassment.<br><br>Here is a scenario that was posted by Debbie Dooley:</font></font><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><font color="#000000" style=""><br></font></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><font color="#000000" style=""> "</font></font><span style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">TAKE HEED MY GUN OWNING FRIENDS !!!!!</span></div><div><font color="#1d2129" face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></font><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:14px">so take your time with this ...!!!! Red Flag Laws...... Here’s what will happen...!!!!!!!!!</p><p style="margin:6px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:14px">It’s a Sunday night and your family has all gone to bed. You let the dogs back in and lock the deadbolt like you do every night. All the lights are off now except a couple of night lights scattered throughout the house leaving that dim glow throughout your home. It’s bedtime and work and school are going to come early in the morning. You crawl in bed, kiss your wife and drift off to sleep being thankful for the air conditioning that allows you to pull that heavy quilt up over your shoulder despite the fact it’s still 85 degrees outside. A few hours pass...</p><p style="margin:6px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:14px">0200 Monday morning and your wife taps your leg and says, “baby I heard something outside”. As you sit up in bed you hear the dog growling in the living room and you know something isn’t right. You grab that trusty ole 870 and head into the living room. Your wife grabs her 9mm and heads down the hall to the kids rooms just like you have rehearsed. “Good boy” you say as you enter the living room, trying to calm both the dog and your wife just as splinters fly across the room and the front door flies open</p><p style="margin:6px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:14px">. “Oh shit!” As you shoulder your weapon and send a load of 00 Buck across your living room and see the perpetrator fall in a heap. Before the “thank God” can even run across your brain, you see a second man coming in the door and you fire again. This time you hear the pop of your wife’s 9mm as she has joined in the fight. It has to be those damn meth heads from down in town!</p><p style="margin:6px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:14px">Just then you are consumed by a wall of bullets as you see multiple muzzle flashes from just outside the door and you realize something isn’t right. You turn to yell at your wife to “get down” just in time to see her take a load of buckshot to the face and her brain matter splatter the wall behind her. You feel the burning as 5.56 bullets Riddle your body. One clips your spine as you’re scrambling away and paralyzes your lower body.</p><p style="margin:6px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:14px">The last thing you see before you bleed out is a SWAT guy from your local PD holding your teenage daughter on the floor with a knee in her back as she screams and cry’s because she just watched her parents being murdered.</p><p style="margin:6px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:14px">Why did this happen? You’re no criminal. You’re a Conservative and an honest family man. Your wife is a school teacher and your daughters are on honor roll.</p><p style="margin:6px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:14px">Why did this happen?<br>Well two days ago, you and your wife went down to welcome the new neighbors to the community. Your wife made them some of her “world famous” cookies and you invited them to church on Sunday. Later that afternoon, you got a friend request on Facebook from your new neighbor, which you gladly accepted. They seemed a little odd, but in the few minutes you talked they were pleasant enough.</p><p style="margin:6px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:14px">The next day while you and your family sat in church, your new neighbor scrolled through your Facebook profile. He saw that “Trump 2020” post and got infuriated. See, he’s a staunch liberal and he hates your kind. The next thing he sees are the hunting pictures you took last fall when your daughter bagged her first buck. Now he’s seething with fury because he is wholeheartedly against the “slaughter of innocent animals”. Next he sees your post from the last range day with your buddy and sees those scary black assault weapons on the table and that does it!</p><p style="margin:6px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:14px">He has to do something about the racist domestic terrorist living next door. He picks up the phone, calls the local Sheriffs Office and reports you as a threat under the new Red Flag law. The SO follows their SOP’s and conducts a no knock warrant because you have now been denied due process and you are considered guilty until proven innocent.</p><p style="margin:6px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:14px">Now you, your lovely wife and two deputies have been killed for nothing. Your daughter will have absolute hell for the rest of her life. She will never be that successful person you dreamed for her to be because of the mental tragedy caused from seeing her parents murdered. The local news paper will report that you were killed after firing on and killing two deputies and that “over a thousand rounds of ammo and 22 guns were confiscated from your residence”.</p><p style="margin:6px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:14px">Oh, those two deputies were just following orders. They left behind families as well and had served their community for over a decade. They didn’t know you were a stand-up guy with a great family. They weren’t allowed time to investigate things under due process. They were told you had threatened your neighbor and were out in the street waving an AR15 around.</p><p style="margin:6px 0px 0px;display:inline;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:14px">This is the reality of Red Flag gun laws. Innocent people will lose their lives. Red Flag laws will be used for petty and vengeful reasons without merit....mark my words ...."</p></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:00 PM Jay Guidry via Lpgaexcomm <<a href="mailto:lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com">lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Your solution is basically to allow the states to remove rights and turn a right into a privilege.<br><br>I can point out that an argument is bad with out proffering a solution in the same conversation.<br><br>Want a solution, give 8 weeks of basic training with out the Military indoctrination to condition listening to orders, Teach brother hood, team work and leadership, while giving mental health screenings and make it required of all Americans.<br><br>Then if SHTF, they can get a referesher after the draft to be conditioned to listen to orders.<br><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 4:32 PM Allen Buckley via Lpgaexcomm <<a href="mailto:lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com" target="_blank">lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I guess you didn't get what I said: Amend the Constitution to
produce a better system</p>
<p>As of now, I don't think legislators can do much of anything that
is constitutional; I think much of what they've done is
unconstitutional<br>
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<p>Again, you're recommendation, no matter how you want to phrase
it, says do nothing<br>
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<p>I'm done<br>
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<div dir="ltr">In the face of state acts (legislators et al)
proposing alleged solutions which violate the Constitution. <br>
Whether they would materially reduce stranger-shootings is
entirely irrelevant. The ends never justify the means, which in
this case is abridging civil liberties. <br>
"Don't do something immoral and unjustified" is not the same
statement as "do nothing" or "nothing needs to be done."<br>
Elizabeth's original resolution says we oppose doing something
immoral, which state actors are insisting should or must be
done. <br>
<br>
I vote YEA on the original resolution and I'm happy to author an
article to contextualize the debate, which humanizes the party,
I think. <br>
Ultimately, we must stand behind individual liberties and
against unconstitutional abuses that abridge them. That's who
we are.</div>
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