<div dir="ltr">We need to consider the balance that we wish to strike between ideology and pragmatism. I can tell you from some of the phone calls that I have made over the past couple weeks that the idea of completely open borders is turning some people off of the LP. According to one fellow, "I will continue voting for Libertarian candidates until it looks like they are actually going to win. I just cannot get behind all of this open borders nonsense." That's not saying that I am opposed to taking an ideological approach, simply that we need to be aware that doing so will alienate people. <br><br> I long ago realized that my personal ideals of voluntarism and open borders were unlikely to ever happen in my lifetime and the most good that I could do would be a more Fabian approach. People do not tend to jump from one position to a radically different one, rather they slide in that direction. That is what led me to loosen my ancap tendencies and become involved with the LP. If we, as a state organization rather than a national one, were to address this from a perspective that is within the realm of our control, it may be more productive. Perhaps we should focus on the impact that these policies have in our state and condemn them. For example, the violation that ICE raids and REAL ID impose on our civil liberties. Also, we should address the conditions under which some of these human beings are being held. The Stewart County Detention Center (within the scope of the LPCV) is where "illegals" are being held in this area. The conditions are abysmal from what I have been told. A very practical thing that we could do would be to demand that they allow charitable donations of humanitarian supplies to be given to detainees.<br></div><div dir="ltr">
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</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 11:36 AM Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm <<a href="mailto:lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com" target="_blank">lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,Palatino,serif">
<p>Is there an edit we can make to better reflect what you're trying to say here? What does "more" mean? Theoretically, "more" could encapsulate what is stated in the resolution.</p>
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<p>On 2019-08-03 09:46, ab--- via Lpgaexcomm wrote:</p>
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<div id="gmail-m_2147709770070224700gmail-m_-1320847884600429413AppleMailSignature">For letting more in and enforcing the laws<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
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<div dir="ltr">unless this includes removing all government welfare programs and birthright citizenship for children of foreign nationals. utterly worthless and could be detrimental.</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 3:42 PM Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm <<a href="mailto:lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com" target="_blank">lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p>I recently had a member of the Radical Caucus in Georgia reach out to me with a proposal for a resolution. I think we should discuss it before any kind of vote. Once someone feels strongly enough that we are ready to vote, we'll need a motion and a second.</p>
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<p><span>"WHEREAS the Libertarian Party of Georgia condemns massive roundups by the federal government of Hispanic-Americans and others in a hunt for foreign nationals not possessing required government documents, and;</span></p>
<p><br><span>WHEREAS those suspected of being undocumented foreign nationals are denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about un-molested, and;</span></p>
<p><br><span>WHEREAS the Libertarian Party opposes welfare payments to foreign nationals just as we oppose welfare payments to all other persons;</span></p>
<p><br><span>THEREFORE, BE IT NOW RESOLVED THAT the Libertarian Party of Georgia calls for the lifting of all restrictions on immigration and for full amnesty for currently undocumented foreign nationals;</span></p>
<p><br><span>BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT we support the abolition of the Border Patrol and of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement.</span></p>
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