<div dir="ltr">Nay.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:15 AM Jay Guidry via Lpgaexcomm <<a href="mailto:lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com">lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">Can’t remmwber if I voted but nay if I didn’t </div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:12 AM Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm <<a href="mailto:lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com" target="_blank">lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,Palatino,serif">
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<div dir="auto">As Sam Clement said, "<strong style="max-height:999999px;color:rgb(60,64,67);font-family:roboto,helveticaneue,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Never argue</strong><span style="color:rgb(60,64,67);font-family:roboto,helveticaneue,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 19, 2019 3:31 PM, "christine00austin--- via Lpgaexcomm" <<a href="mailto:lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com" target="_blank">lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Ryan that some people do this, but I think the logic that it helps us move on is flawed. Some people certainly think this, but it actually forces us to discuss and debate and then vote on an issue that should have died for lack of a second. Letting a motion die for lack of a second actually helps on to more on much more effectively. <br><br>You can always reach out to the originator of the motion and make suggestions for changes that could be made in order to secure your support.  <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Lpgaexcomm <<a href="mailto:lpgaexcomm-bounces@lists.lpgeorgia.com" target="_blank">lpgaexcomm-bounces@lists.lpgeorgia.com</a>> <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Friday, July 19, 2019 2:27 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> <a href="mailto:lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com" target="_blank">lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com</a><br><strong>Cc:</strong> Ryan Graham <<a href="mailto:ryan.graham@lpgeorgia.com" target="_blank">ryan.graham@lpgeorgia.com</a>><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [LPGa Executive Committee] Official Statement on Donald Trump's Divisive Rhetoric<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">It just depends on you. Some people second everything so we can move on to discussion or voting, even if they plan on voting nay. Some people won't second things unless they support it. Purely personal. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">In Liberty,</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">Ryan Graham</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">Chair, Libertarian Party of Georgia</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Courier New""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">On 2019-07-19 14:22, Elizabeth M via Lpgaexcomm wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">We don't have to respond to all of his tweets because we respond to one. Regardless, if libertarians wanted to suggest that we do so by writing such responses for us to consider, I'd say we should probably consider them.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">My take is that this particular tweet from the President, and the subsequent rally in NC, is a step further than we've typically seen in the past, and a step over a line I'm not comfortable with the POTUS stepping over.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">On 2019-07-19 12:59, Christine Austin via Lpgaexcomm wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">We had a concerned libertarian reach out and ask why we haven't made a statement about Donald Trump's recent tweets and statements. He went so far as to send a statement he'd like to see. Laurie took a look and edited it up and I think we're ready for a motion.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">I move to make an official statement of the Libertarian Party of Georgia regarding the Trump rhetoric as follows:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">In light of recent bigoted statements by the President of the United States and the silence of many who fail to condemn these statements (and whose inaction is sometimes interpreted as support), we the members and supporters of the Libertarian Party restate our condemnation of any and all acts of bigotry, racism, and hatred by any person against any other. To view individuals primarily as members of a group or bound by immutable characteristics is a violation of our values celebrating rights of the individual. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">Politicians fostering divisiveness, bigotry, and collectivism among individuals are a threat to America's identity as a melting pot of cultural influence and a steward of equality before the law. We the Libertarian Party embrace America's diversity and affirm our pursuit of the principles of liberty and justice for all individuals.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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